In this powerful Black History Month episode, we explore the layered and often unspoken realities of colorism—how it shows up within communities of color and shapes identity, perception, and opportunity. Through honest reflection and dialogue, we examine the historical roots and present-day impact of colorism, and how it continues to influence lived experiences.

Hosts Leila Garcia and Zaid Gayle bring personal insight and cultural context to the conversation, unpacking how colorism intersects with media, representation, and internalized narratives. The episode also features a compelling bonus interview with Black-ish showrunner Kenya Barris, who shares his perspective on storytelling, representation, and the role media plays in healing and shifting cultural narratives.

Tune in for a meaningful and thought-provoking conversation that invites deeper awareness, challenges assumptions, and opens the door for connection, reflection, and change.